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  • Mar 18, 2020 12:49pm Mar 18, 2020 12:49pm
  •  Kafin
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 58 Posts
Quoting Kwame Freder
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{quote} US producers are not a cartel like opec and so the thousands of different companies In the states act independently. in fact it is illegal for them to collude this way
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Thanks a lot for this info Kwame, I was getting ready for a situation when US-producers makes "such announcement", now I know that it will never happen

Every legislation has its merits and demerits - then the most reasonable way will be for OPEC/Saudi/Russia to periodically bring oil-price down.
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  • Mar 18, 2020 12:52pm Mar 18, 2020 12:52pm
  •  michaelpelly
  • Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Member | 2,245 Posts
Quoting kuroro001
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{quote} If you are trend follower...but selling at 20 dollars ? no way I'll keep adding unti we hit 0, either Oil disapper or we bounce back to 60 dollars
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All in - will buy it until 0!

I missed a good opportunity (got some pennies) last time it was around $26 - same talks, same fears - it bounced wildly!
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:11pm Mar 18, 2020 1:11pm
  •  ytong
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 72 Posts
Looking at larger timeframe:
the maximum downturn is about -22 from here (down to 0, which will not happen)
the maximum upturn is about (?) +30 +40 +100...
So where is the possibility to take more ???
ofc, mind Mr Margin
Buy and hold.
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:11pm Mar 18, 2020 1:11pm
  •  Kwame Freder
  • | Joined Jun 2011 | Status: Member | 511 Posts
expecting a rejection soon, if not $20 is a nice round number that i expect will be defended
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:18pm Mar 18, 2020 1:18pm
  •  kuroro001
  • Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 17,077 Posts
Quoting michaelpelly
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{quote} All in - will buy it until 0! I missed a good opportunity (got some pennies) last time it was around $26 - same talks, same fears - it bounced wildly!
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Same here buddy. A few buck every 5/10% down.....my average is 26 for now.

Tomorrow i'll add way more if we clear 20 dollars.
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:24pm Mar 18, 2020 1:24pm
  •  Kafin
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Quoting auricforecas
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{quote} Heh, your answer might be in question Some charts that might give us some clues... {image} {image} {image} {image}
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For the recent 2014/2015 oil-price-wars:

https://www.vox.com/2014/11/28/7302827/oil-prices-opec
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ally-Over.html
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:39pm Mar 18, 2020 1:39pm
  •  renkotop
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Is OPEC sleeping???
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:42pm Mar 18, 2020 1:42pm
  •  Kwame Freder
  • | Joined Jun 2011 | Status: Member | 511 Posts
Quoting renkotop
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Is OPEC sleeping???
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thought they were the ones pushing it down
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:49pm Mar 18, 2020 1:49pm
  •  renkotop
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Quoting Kwame Freder
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{quote} thought they were the ones pushing it down
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They did cut the volume, If I' m not wrong!!!
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:55pm Mar 18, 2020 1:55pm
  •  Kwame Freder
  • | Joined Jun 2011 | Status: Member | 511 Posts
Quoting renkotop
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{quote} They did cut the volume, If I' m not wrong!!!
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saudi arabia increased production in response to russia not agreeing to cut production and started a price war. that along with covid 19 is causing oil to drop
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:58pm Mar 18, 2020 1:58pm
  •  Kwame Freder
  • | Joined Jun 2011 | Status: Member | 511 Posts
wti sharp rejection @ 20.82 lets see if it holds. expect it to whipsaw around here a bit
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  • Mar 18, 2020 1:59pm Mar 18, 2020 1:59pm
  •  Ll1979
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Quoting Kwame Freder
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{quote} saudi arabia increased production in response to russia not agreeing to cut production and started a price war. that along with covid 19 is causing oil to drop
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I wonder how long the shale companies could continue to pump oil and gas.
persistence and determination alone are omnipotent
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:09pm Mar 18, 2020 2:09pm
  •  kuroro001
  • Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 17,077 Posts
Price 21 dollars?

Its getting sick really.

OPEC should do something. A lot of countries & companies will go broke

But its good for me to add more down....make it even 15 dollars so i can add
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:17pm Mar 18, 2020 2:17pm
  •  renkotop
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Quoting kuroro001
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Price 21 dollars? Its getting sick really. OPEC should do something. A lot of countries & companies will go broke But its good for me to add more down....make it even 15 dollars so i can add
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"OPEC should do something": see post 6787!
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:18pm Mar 18, 2020 2:18pm
  •  Kwame Freder
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Quoting Ll1979
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{quote} I wonder how long the shale companies could continue to pump oil and gas.
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probably a matter of days
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:23pm Mar 18, 2020 2:23pm
  •  kuroro001
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Quoting renkotop
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{quote} "OPEC should do something": see post 6787!
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Like you said, they are sleeping

Or they happy about it
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:26pm Mar 18, 2020 2:26pm
  •  Ll1979
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Quoting kuroro001
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{quote} Like you said, they are sleeping Or they happy about it
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Shale will be killed they took a huge piece of the market share last couple of years
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:27pm Mar 18, 2020 2:27pm
  •  kuroro001
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Quoting Ll1979
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{quote} Shale will be killed they took a huge piece of the market share last couple of years {image}
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Looks ugly

I guess i'll wake up with crude below 20 tomorrow, we are approaching it

It reminds me of a move of coffee below 90 dollars while producers couldn't make any money for weeks...then it cleared the sky

Who knows
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:29pm Mar 18, 2020 2:29pm
  •  Ll1979
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buyers kick in on 1M
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  • Mar 18, 2020 2:30pm Mar 18, 2020 2:30pm
  •  Kwame Freder
  • | Joined Jun 2011 | Status: Member | 511 Posts
feels almost like a deliberate move to margin call oil longs. there must have been a ton of them today
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