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  • Mar 18, 2021 4:04pm Mar 18, 2021 4:04pm
  •  Hutch
  • Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Lazy trader on D1 charts | 4,976 Posts
Quoting Kwame Freder
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{quote} lol holy crap maybe by summer. wti has fallen off a cliff today.
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Yep ... I have never seen an ATR above 600.
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  • Mar 18, 2021 5:29pm Mar 18, 2021 5:29pm
  •  Hutch
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WTI went down $4.88 today with the highest ATR that I have seen. That ATR produced 1 losing trade, 4 break even trades and 7 winning trades.
Because I don't have enough space to show the whole chart unless I make it very small I'm showing the best trade of the day. Unfortunately I missed it
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  • Mar 18, 2021 7:47pm Mar 18, 2021 7:47pm
  •  Kwame Freder
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we did get a bounce $58 + but hard to tell if the move down is over
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  • Mar 19, 2021 12:44am Mar 19, 2021 12:44am
  •  yani38
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Quoting Kwame Freder
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we did get a bounce $58 + but hard to tell if the move down is over
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Well, a bit of a shocker to see close to 58.00 @ 5.30AM this morning AEST. Anyway bailed @ 64.87 3 days ago, currently 60.15. Remain bullish short/medium term.
If it works for you, run with it. Beware the ides of March : )
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  • Mar 19, 2021 10:55am Mar 19, 2021 10:55am
  •  Kwame Freder
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i cautiously believe we are at the bottom ($58 area)
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  • Mar 19, 2021 5:58pm Mar 19, 2021 5:58pm
  •  Hutch
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WTI went up $1.89 or 3% with an average ATR that produced 1 losing trade, 2 break even trades and 14 winning trades.
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  •  kstiks
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Hey HUTCH - BIG Thanks

Greeting,
I did everything as described in that video and applied 2 indicators, FXBay and HalfTrend to the offline M4 chart. I just want you to take a look at the picture and see if it's all ok? Try to compare with your chart.....if you can
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Hey HUTCH - BIG Thanks Greeting, I did everything as described in that video and applied 2 indicators, FXBay and HalfTrend to the offline M4 chart. I just want you to take a look at the picture and see if it's all ok? Try to compare with your chart.....if you can {image}
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The picture is perfect for trading anything with a Mean (Median) Renko chart. It looks like that the indicators work better on Mean Renko than on Normal Renko because each new brick following the trend starts in the middle of the previous brick. The only difference is that I use a Half Trend with a factor of 2 while you use a factor of 1. It looks like that the signals are of better quality using Mean Renko. I changed from Standard Renko with Half Trend TT factor 2 to your Mean Renko chart with Half Trend TT factor 1 and checked the result with the only break even trade of today that occurred at 16:00 on my chart (first chart). Since Mean Renko with Half Trend TT factor 1 gives an earlier signal the signal is a winning trade (second chart) instead of a break even trade. On the other hand, you will see on the chart shown in the next post that there is no losing trade while there are 4 small losing trades using Mean Renko (third picture). Standard and Mean Renko are both good but it's a trader's choice.
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  • Mar 22, 2021 6:05pm Mar 22, 2021 6:05pm
  •  Hutch
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WTI went down 19¢ with a low ATR that produced 8 winning trades and 1 break even trade.
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  •  Hutch
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WTI went down $3.88 today with a high ATR that produced 7 winning trades and 1 break even trade. The best trade would have been the continuation trade from yesterday. Something is seriously wrong with WTI since it doesn't know where to go. Last week it went up and this week it's the opposite.
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  •  kstiks
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One day WTI goes down for 6% and tommorow go up by 6%....there is no sense any more...nice trading.
So, tommorow is dowd day?
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One day WTI goes down for 6% and tommorow go up by 6%....there is no sense any more...nice trading. So, tommorow is dowd day?
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Yup. Trading crude is the easiest way to blow up an account. I wouldn't call this a dead cat bounce. The positive vaccine news out of Europe along with OPEC+ news that they'll keep production the same at the April meeting has been the two major triggers.
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  •  Kafin
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I'm looking for reliable Long/Short position summary (Sentiment) for Crude
Kindly assist if you know of any source

An example is shown below
https://www.forexfactory.com/attachm...9&d=1616243377

Found this through google -- Crude Oil Prices: Brent and WTI Price Chart, Forecast & News (dailyfx.com) Sentiment is fairly balanced, MM may go short
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  •  Kafin
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{quote} Yup. Trading crude is the easiest way to blow up an account. I wouldn't call this a dead cat bounce. The positive vaccine news out of Europe along with OPEC+ news that they'll keep production the same at the April meeting has been the two major triggers. {image}
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Thanks for the info, also saw this: https://www.ig.com/en/news-and-trade...ck-news-210308

Thinking of going long on the small pull-back at $60.75, will try a small lot
Unclear situation - placed a stop at $60.30
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{quote} Thanks for the info, also saw this: https://www.ig.com/en/news-and-trade...ck-news-210308 Thinking of going long on the small pull-back at $60.75, will try a small lot Unclear situation - placed a stop at $60.30
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Next week is the OPEC+ meeting on Thursday. It looks like Saudi Arabia will continue to be the swing producer and keep production as is no matter what Russia or anybody else does. That's positive for oil prices. It could be what we are seeing being priced in today. Not sure.
We must learn who is gold, and who is gold plated
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  • Mar 24, 2021 1:57pm Mar 24, 2021 1:57pm
  •  yieldjunkie
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As if trading crude wasn't messy enough (at least from where I sit), this debacle in the Suez canal seems to be clogging up oil tankers. Away from that, I do think the return of demand will be steady - already seeing promising news as it relates to airlines.
Risk recycler.
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  • Mar 24, 2021 5:43pm Mar 24, 2021 5:43pm
  •  Hutch
  • Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Lazy trader on D1 charts | 4,976 Posts
Yesterday I stated that WTI doesn't know where to and WTI proved it going down 6% yesterday and going up 6% today. WTI went up $3.45 today with a high ATR that provided 6 winning trades, 1 break even trade and 1 weird losing trade between arrow 8 and 9.
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  • Mar 24, 2021 9:29pm Mar 24, 2021 9:29pm
  •  Kwame Freder
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doesn't look like wti is able to sustain a rally. however the big moves both ways are providing trading oppurtunities
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  • Mar 25, 2021 1:10am Mar 25, 2021 1:10am
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Yesterday I stated that WTI doesn't know where to and WTI proved it going down 6% yesterday and going up 6% today. WTI went up $3.45 today with a high ATR that provided 6 winning trades, 1 break even trade and 1 weird losing trade between arrow 8 and 9. {image}
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Hi Hutch,

Can you please my chart and give some insights as to why the renko is looking bit different than yours. 1st chart is renko standard with no wicks and second is with wicks. I am mainly concentrating on the without wick chart (i.e., 1st chart). btw brick size is 10 which is not showing here properly in the chart
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  • Mar 25, 2021 8:21am Mar 25, 2021 8:21am
  •  Hutch
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{quote} Hi Hutch, Can you please my chart and give some insights as to why the renko is looking bit different than yours. 1st chart is renko standard with no wicks and second is with wicks. I am mainly concentrating on the without wick chart (i.e., 1st chart). btw brick size is 10 which is not showing here properly in the chart {image} {image}
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Normal Renko without wicks sometimes shows wicks when there is a big trend change. Before a new brick of size 10 is formed there could have been a wick up/down of 9+ pips so using wicks the bar size with wicks could be close to 30 pips. This is normally not a problem. The biggest problem that I have and I contacted my broker about it is a delay in tick sometimes as large as 8 seconds on M1 source charts. These delays affect the formation of new bricks and can lead to losses. Using the Infoboard indicator please check if there is a delay on your M1 chart. Data feed is the main reason for differences between charts whether it is a normal time frame chart or Renko. I know this is not much of an explanation but I hope it helps.
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