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NG went down 4¢ today but the low ATR still produced a good trading day. {image}
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At every half trend entry the MACD is in the direction of the candle but not below or above the zero line, can you tell us how exactly do you use read this indicator?
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{quote} At every half trend entry the MACD is in the direction of the candle but not below or above the zero line, can you tell us how exactly do you use read this indicator?
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Hi Henry, here is the same chart but with red and aqua vertical lines showing when to enter into a trade. As you can see you can see trade entries occur only after the Renko brick has closed. Before the brick has closed you might get an arrow on the current Renko brick that will oscillate up and down according with the current value of the brick. The second chart shows an example of a Renko brick with its wick. As you can see the body of the previous brick had a low of 2.65 and had a high of 2.66. The next brick shown with an arrow started with an open price of 2.66. As you can see it closed at 2.67 but went as low as 2.641 at the bottom of the wick. Had the price gone to 2.64 it would have produced a red brick but, instead, it went to 2.67 producing a new aqua brick. Sometimes we get a bad signal like the Half Trend TT arrow on the aqua brick at the opening of today's session. The arrow and brick are correct but the next brick where we should enter into a trade is red and the FXBay MACD is negative so no trade. Bad signals occur mostly at the opening of a new session and I think that the 1 hour pause between session might be the cause. No strategy is perfect but with experience you will get the hang of it. I hope this helps.
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NG went up 2¢ today with a low ATR that produced 3 winning trades. The opening session arrow produced a loss trade.
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NG opened with a gap of 6 red bricks but after that it went smoothly. NG went up 8¢ today with a high ATR that produced a break even trade and two good trades.
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NG went down 5¢ today with a high ATR that, like yesterday, produced a break even trade and two good trades. Please note that the last down arrow at the close of yesterday's session disappeared at the beginning of today's session as the Half Trend TT repainted.
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NG went up 1¢ today but the below average ATR still produced a good trading day.
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Looks hard to trade as the spread with 2,9 pips is almost the size of 3 bricks...how do you handle this?
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{quote} Looks hard to trade as the spread with 2,9 pips is almost the size of 3 bricks...how do you handle this?
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With an average ATR of 13 pips nobody in his right mind would trade natural gas with a spread of 2.9 pips because it would be impossible to make a decent profit. The 2.9 pips spread is after the trading session has ended and is paused for one hour. Normally the average spread is about 0.5 pips and increases the session as the session is close to ending. Right now the spread is 0.6 at 10 minutes before the session closing.
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NG went down 7¢ today and with average ATR producing one very good trade with 4 others being lousy.
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{quote} With an average ATR of 13 pips nobody in his right mind would trade natural gas with a spread of 2.9 pips because it would be impossible to make a decent profit. The 2.9 pips spread is after the trading session has ended and is paused for one hour. Normally the average spread is about 0.5 pips and increases the session as the session is close to ending. Right now the spread is 0.6 at 10 minutes before the session closing. {image}
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Looks like my broker wants more business by lowering the spread
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NG went up 7¢ today with a slightly higher ATR that produced 1 excellent trade, 1 good trade and 1 break even trade.
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NG went down 10¢ today with a low ATR that produced only 1 trade from Friday's close but the first 8 bricks had no volume producing a large gap.

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NG went down 1¢ today again with a lower than average ATR that produced only a few not so good trades. I was right, the last arrow on yesterday's chart was a repainter for the reasons I stated.
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NG went up a massive 14¢ today with a high ATR almost 50% higher than average. This produced good trades as compared to yesterday's.
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NG went up 3¢ today with a low ATR that produced one good trade and a few lousy trades.
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NG went up 5¢ today with a low ATR that produced two good trades.
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NG finished the day at the same price as yesterday but the first 3 trades were quite good.
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NG went up 5¢ today with a low ATR that produced nearly nothing because of the constant up and down moves.
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NG went down 3¢ today with an average ATR that produced one good trade and a so so one brick trade.
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NG went up 4¢ today with a very low ATR that produced only one viable trade.
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NG went down 1¢ today with a low ATR but there were 2 good trades followed by 2 break even trades.
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NG went up 1¢ today with a normal ATR that produced 2 good trades especially the first one from the continuation of yesterday's action.
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NG went down 16¢ or 5% today with a very high ATR that basically produced one excellent down trade.
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NG went down 6¢ today with an average ATR that produced two good trades.
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NG went down 16¢ today opening with a large gap until the first arrow. It wasn't good trading conditions.
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NG went up 9¢ today and it was the opposite of yesterday with a good trade from the start of the session.
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NG went down 2¢ today but the low ATR still produced a few good trades.
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NG went up 11¢ today with an average ATR that produced 3 winning trades and one losing trade.
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NG went up 4¢ today but from session opening there were 7 empty Renko boxes (zero volume) so the gap was 7 pips which is huge
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NG went up 9¢ today but, unlike yesterday, there was no gap.
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NG went up only 2¢ today but it was a good trading day because the price dropped before recovering.
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NG went down 4¢ today but the low ATR still produced a good trading day.
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Quoting Hutch
NG went down 4¢ today but the low ATR still produced a good trading day. {image}

At every half trend entry the MACD is in the direction of the candle but not below or above the zero line, can you tell us how exactly do you use read this indicator?








 

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Quoting eurolinux
{quote} At every half trend entry the MACD is in the direction of the candle but not below or above the zero line, can you tell us how exactly do you use read this indicator?

Hi Henry, here is the same chart but with red and aqua vertical lines showing when to enter into a trade. As you can see you can see trade entries occur only after the Renko brick has closed. Before the brick has closed you might get an arrow on the current Renko brick that will oscillate up and down according with the current value of the brick. The second chart shows an example of a Renko brick with its wick. As you can see the body of the previous brick had a low of 2.65 and had a high of 2.66. The next brick shown with an arrow started with an open price of 2.66. As you can see it closed at 2.67 but went as low as 2.641 at the bottom of the wick. Had the price gone to 2.64 it would have produced a red brick but, instead, it went to 2.67 producing a new aqua brick. Sometimes we get a bad signal like the Half Trend TT arrow on the aqua brick at the opening of today's session. The arrow and brick are correct but the next brick where we should enter into a trade is red and the FXBay MACD is negative so no trade. Bad signals occur mostly at the opening of a new session and I think that the 1 hour pause between session might be the cause. No strategy is perfect but with experience you will get the hang of it. I hope this helps.
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NG went up 2¢ today with a low ATR that produced 3 winning trades. The opening session arrow produced a loss trade.
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NG opened with a gap of 6 red bricks but after that it went smoothly. NG went up 8¢ today with a high ATR that produced a break even trade and two good trades.
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NG went down 5¢ today with a high ATR that, like yesterday, produced a break even trade and two good trades. Please note that the last down arrow at the close of yesterday's session disappeared at the beginning of today's session as the Half Trend TT repainted.
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NG went up 1¢ today but the below average ATR still produced a good trading day.
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Quoting Hutch
NG went up 1¢ today but the below average ATR still produced a good trading day. {image}

Looks hard to trade as the spread with 2,9 pips is almost the size of 3 bricks...how do you handle this?








 

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Quoting Olarion1975
{quote} Looks hard to trade as the spread with 2,9 pips is almost the size of 3 bricks...how do you handle this?

With an average ATR of 13 pips nobody in his right mind would trade natural gas with a spread of 2.9 pips because it would be impossible to make a decent profit. The 2.9 pips spread is after the trading session has ended and is paused for one hour. Normally the average spread is about 0.5 pips and increases the session as the session is close to ending. Right now the spread is 0.6 at 10 minutes before the session closing.
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NG went down 7¢ today and with average ATR producing one very good trade with 4 others being lousy.
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Quoting Hutch
{quote} With an average ATR of 13 pips nobody in his right mind would trade natural gas with a spread of 2.9 pips because it would be impossible to make a decent profit. The 2.9 pips spread is after the trading session has ended and is paused for one hour. Normally the average spread is about 0.5 pips and increases the session as the session is close to ending. Right now the spread is 0.6 at 10 minutes before the session closing. {image}

Looks like my broker wants more business by lowering the spread
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NG went up 7¢ today with a slightly higher ATR that produced 1 excellent trade, 1 good trade and 1 break even trade.



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