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  • Mar 17, 2023 4:56pm Mar 17, 2023 4:56pm
  •  Shabs19
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Example of Exaggerated Divergence :

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Quoting handy148
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{quote} break and retest of the fractal swings
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If you knew the HOD was a fake move, where would you enter then ?

Maybe the engulf of the high candle @ 15105.3 ?

Well before BOS & retest, and that would be your second entry @ London Open 15042.2
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Quoting Shabs19
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Example of Exaggerated Divergence : {image}
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Heres a guy who loves the MACD
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Have a good weekend folks
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
 
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{quote} Heres a guy who loves the MACD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ONlV24mIp0 Have a good weekend folks
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Didn't mention MACD even once ..................
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Quoting turnip15
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When I was young; much younger than today, I had a "Beatles jacket and a pair of "Winkle Picker shoes."
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I look back at the old Beatles song "When I'm 64" and just smile
 
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Quoting TimeTells
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{quote} I look back at the old Beatles song "When I'm 64" and just smile
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I thought of you more a Rolling Stone.......
Follow the Money
 
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  •  TimeTells
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The beauty of the Market to me is they just cannot hide their Mechanics. Day after Day.

To me there are no private & hidden banking secrets lol. Thats likely just trader jibber-jabber.
AS ............. where exactly would they hide them

The charts tell us all, if we spend our time to "see" them in their reality.

Quick example from yesterday.
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Was the "Real Target ==>" "Top Right" .... and pointed out on the chart ... the BRN000.
Well Yes & No.
To me the Real Target was where, and a few folk have even suggested in the past TO NOT LOOK ( ) ........ ie, to the Left
As there, on the left, many would have easily seen (as well as the Banks LOL) ...

The 'sitting like a duck TARGET' called the Opening Gap. All there where it cannot be hidden (by the Banks ) - on our Charts.

So, to me, it is really just the same Market Mechanics & Behaviours being played out over & over, day after day.
HOW we all trade it, and where and in which session that's available to us, and for what target or prize TP is then only based on the one thing imho.
US vs US

Trade well guys, and have a terrific weekend ahead.


Yesterday's Review.
(Which I do in the mornings to see what New York got up to last night )
All there of course, known in advance, no secret sauce lol

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So the NY box is ONLY for 4 hours and 30 minutes??
 
 
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So the NY box is ONLY for 5 hours and 30 minutes??
 
 
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Quoting loveandpeace
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So the NY box is ONLY for 4 hours and 30 minutes??
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Varies. Mine is 1 hour from 9:30 to 10:30 NY. The NY session however runs from 8 am or so to the EOD.
Mark ... Either you understand or you don't, and that is that.
 
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According to TimeTells،, on his 15M time frame, he made NY Box for 4 hours and 30 minutes, I am willing to know the reason behind this.
Time Tells, would you please?? Thanks
 
 
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Quoting loveandpeace
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So the NY box is ONLY for 5 hours and 30 minutes??
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Hi L&P

Spzd is correct, there is NO universal Session Box.

My start & finish times are user defined (think of how someone uses an MA for example, why 21 period, why 32 period etc. It is what we see from it all).

My NY box, for example finishes AT the Fixing Time London Close
(or 'should' lol, after the carry-ons following daylight savings starts & finishes in certain places hahaa)
After Franky & London have both closed the New York Gang have full rein at the prices all on their own.
So in the morning looking at a NY Box for example I can see what they did with the market after the others were all gone.
Tip: At some point NY often seem (ie not always) to like to set a new Hi (or Low) of the day, again.
A pip only sometimes, but aren't our Market Mechanics interesting when we look at them in their reality.

Other Session boxes are just what I've watched for a while that suit ME. And I HAVE changed them around over the years also.

all the best


edit LOL: settle down .... love&peace hahaa , ..... I live in Australia you live in Canada and I do NOT sit here logged in to FF all the time hahaaa.
I do however answer all questions directed at me ... in my time. Maybe I call you now chill&peace ( just joking )
 
 
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TimeTells, would you mind throwing more light on US vs US ??? did I miss any Post of yours?? I need to learn this phenomenon, US vs US.
 
 
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Quoting loveandpeace
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TimeTells, would you mind throwing more light on US vs US ??? did I miss any Post of yours?? I need to learn this phenomenon, US vs US.
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Hi L&P

I can tell you that it is NOT visiting a shrink to find out what you are.

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Why do they call them Shrinks, when it's your mind that needs expanding ? Yikes, the ECB have hiked the interest rates despite financial turmoil in the markets
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Maybe best if you are really interested, to go to Bluesteele Home Page, into Total Posts mid-left, the enter the phrase YOU vs YOU into the "Search within posts".

Blue/Kev has mentioned this many times, and Shabs also, as well as myself..

As a starter/teaser though, when you open up your charts each day, Who are you bringing with you, and with what life experiences do they have that may help.
Does your Template, for example, actually push the Buy/Sell Button or does it just show the Roadmap. Who is it pushing the Buy/Sell ?
 
 
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  • Mar 17, 2023 8:19pm Mar 17, 2023 8:19pm
  •  loveandpeace
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{quote} Hi L&P I can tell you that it is NOT visiting a shrink to find out what you are. {quote} Maybe best if you are really interested, to go to Bluesteele Home Page, into Total Posts mid-left, the enter the phrase YOU vs YOU into the "Search within posts". Blue/Kev has mentioned this many times, and Shabs also, as well as myself.. As a starter/teaser though, when you open up your charts each day, Who are you bringing with you, and with what life experiences do they have that may help. Does your Template, for example, actually push the Buy/Sell...
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Thanks for your prompt reply, definitely I would spend time reading their posts you mentioned.
 
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Quoting loveandpeace
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Thanks for your prompt reply, definitely I would spend time reading their posts you mentioned.
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Cheers L&P,

For myself, let me try & put it this way. Another way.

The markets were NEVER, as I found out later in my trading life, my biggest hurdle in learning trading. That biggest hurdle was just ME
 
 
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  •  TimeTells
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Out now for a quick brunch, I bring the beer & wine, my friend she does the cooking. Good deal for both of us.
Will answer if any directed questions when I get back in about five hours.
Happy Sat'dy folks
 
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  •  FocusWinReal
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Quoting Shabs19
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Example of Exaggerated Divergence : {image}
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Nice chart there Shabs.

Dr David Paul is a healthy voice to listen to. Momentum, divergence, wow I mean just wow, he mentions divergence.

We trade our beliefs. That's all. Edit: beliefs formed from facts and truths I would ad. What is real and what has been observed to work or happen.

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Cheers...
 
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Quoting TimeTells
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The beauty of the Market to me is they just cannot hide their Mechanics. Day after Day. To me there are no private & hidden banking secrets lol. Thats likely just trader jibber-jabber. AS ............. where exactly would they hide them The charts tell us all, if we spend our time to "see" them in their reality. Quick example from yesterday. {quote} Was the "Real Target ==>" "Top Right" .... and pointed out on the chart ... the BRN000. Well Yes & No. To me the Real Target was where, and a few folk have even suggested in the past TO NOT...
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GJ. Look left and up.

Got on the AJ too late (damn slow price, turn screen off, turn screen on, turn off, turn on, oh she's dropping now) but took a second one.
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  •  Kwt4x
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Quoting FocusWinReal
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{quote} Nice chart there Shabs. Dr David Paul is a healthy voice to listen to. Momentum, divergence, wow I mean just wow, he mentions divergence. We trade our beliefs. That's all. Edit: beliefs formed from facts and truths I would ad. What is real and what has been observed to work or happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSbNiq5oPig Cheers...
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Divergence is a leading tool, every day must have one type or another.

as Dr. Paul said: Divergence is when price and indicator momentum are not matching.

if the price going UP, first thing to match with is yesterday High, if the divergence started, HOD soon to form.
if the price momentum still strong, you should wait for direct divergence in 2 top's, when price is HH and indicator is LH.
same with price going down.

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you still need direction and range, just to make sure divergence's making HHHL-LHLL.

to me, OsMA is more clear, others will do the same job.

the bigger the TF more clear divergence.

cheers,
"the public is not yet ready for it" W.D. GANN
 
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