That's right. Because there are 3 parties in every trade, buyer and seller can both win and can both lose, but the broker always win.

Every time you win, someone else loses, and vice versa?

That's the ultimate goal in forex. And if there's an indicator that can tell what these market makers about to do then you have the Holy Grail. Trouble is, it must remain a secret. If too many are using them, the mms will sense it and change their ...

Every time you win, someone else loses, and vice versa?

That could happen too. I'm just saying that it doesn't need to always happen like 1+1 =2. If the MM knows where the price is going, they may take your order in regardless whether there is a seller or not. MM will do whatever it takes to minimize ...

Every time you win, someone else loses, and vice versa?

Oh I'm just saying that if you buy, it doesn't necessarily mean someone else is selling to your buy order. It could be the market maker selling to you instead. So to say that every time you win, someone else has to lose is not realistic.

Every time you win, someone else loses, and vice versa?

Excellent post. So we can conclude this discussion by saying that the statement is inaccurate simply because there exist a market maker who becomes the intermediary. The more proper statement is then: Every time you win/lose, someone else does NOT ...

Every time you win, someone else loses, and vice versa?

Thanks Ian. To me M&W is the latest step on my mental checklist. I'm trying to combine MC and SM. So I always start with historical data, then finding the possible current accumulation area, then stop hunt, then M&W entry. It's good to hear if the ...

M&W-Trading

Thanks for such rapid and interesting responses. Yeah, the question is really about how: A can be +$100m, B is -$25m, C is -$25m, and D is -$50m. More importantly, how is that possible on such a consistent basis? I couldn't think of any other ...

Every time you win, someone else loses, and vice versa?

And I would rather stack the probability on my side for the market to give me a profit by making a good entry. By "depending on what the market is giving you", you're trading on hope, not understanding. Again, leaning towards gambling. Random entry ...

Your exit is more important than your entry?

Can you define what random entry is? My definition of random entry is when you flip a coin, or make absolutely no analysis whatsoever, then you enter 10 lots on random pair. That's my definition, and I stand firm on my statement that random entry is ...

Your exit is more important than your entry?

Your entry can be random? I find it hard to digest. The purpose of all proper trading system is to find the right entry at the market. With a random entry, you're leaning more towards gambling than analysis. One of my goals in forex is to create ...

Your exit is more important than your entry?

Why is that Martin Cole's teaching requires his PAT software to work? Surely it does give you the advantage, but if we understand his logic, we should see it on ANY chart shouldn't we?

M&W-Trading

To be really honest with you, I would share if my secret indicator works. The forex world is too big for a small retail trader like me to even alter it a bit. BUT, I've seen some threads here discussing why sharing your trading system in forex, and ...

The Secret Indicator?

The question of why a secret indicator is worth having is still left unanswered. Just exactly what benefit can someone get by trading his/her secret indicator?

The Secret Indicator?

It's an addiction. Whether you admit it or not, watching price up and down, especially when we have an open position and money is at stake, we derive mental pain and pleasure and the brain reacts to both of these two extremes. Our brain's ...

Why do we continually watch Price Action?

Thanks for the update M. Would love to have a look at the indicator if you come across it. The only meaningful proposition I can take out of SM system is turning this into a relatively good scalping system. In almost my entries I never had a ...

M&W-Trading

I agree hedging is a useful technique. But it is only useful when you've mastered it. I really am having a hard time opening and closing which leg to make sure I ended with profit. Besides, what happens if you hedge and price never comes back? Say ...

Martingale vs. Hedge vs. Scaling in vs. Nothing

Well, some of us here say they have consistently working secret indicator. I take it it must produce at least 80% winning rate, less than that is ordinary indicators. There's nothing secret about that. I'm just curious about this one-dimensional ...

The Secret Indicator?