To make the prop firm offers (on challenges) more clear everyone must understand there is trade-off between meeting the goals and not meeting the goals. If you can meet the goals everytime then there is only a small step that it is not worth to ...

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And do not forget these are riskadjusted returns based on max. Drawdowns. So it is not all about profits only, as one could also reduces risks on own personal account. The only thing what matters here is the breakeven point, at what percentage of ...

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Do not have the patience right now to go through all others examples. But I give you another simple hint, where you can calculate yourself the solution. Example here is FTMO. They offer for 100k challenge a fee of 540 €. Now you need to do 150% ...

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Sorry, it gets stupid here. I am not your school teacher in math. If you cannot replicate my simple examples that is your problem. As I said you did not get the point.

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Why the hell ? I do not intend to offer anything. You are offending me. "Something tells you", so do you hear voices in your head ? Do you have paranoia or what ?

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No you do not understand. This is like the same one should take an offer from a prop with score less than 1. It does not make sense as you can do more on a personal account. The math works in both directions. So if you say you should risk less with ...

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You did not get my point I was explaining with all the math & examples. But I am tired of repeating myself. Maybe you must number crunch yourself. Sorry to say that.

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So the conlusion is, and math cannot lie, that any trader who is doing 24% or more in a month when being funded with MFF, would be better doing this on his own personal account, as this is the trade-off amount where own compounding on personal ...

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I did not say the prop thing is not good or has no value. I only said from a certain point of the traders ability it does make sense, as it can be better to do only own compounding on personal accounts. I give you another example, so you can see the ...

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I am also in talks with a hedge fund looking for traders, as they want to seed traders with 200k at the beginning. And I guess you do not get more than 20% profit split, but I do not know all the details yet, as it is in early stadium of talks here. ...

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I see it bit different. As you cannot get rich when you do not compound your gains. There is some trade-off here of course, as no one wants to risk everything when a certain profit limit is reached. But that is different for anyone. There might be ...

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Anyone is able to search some background info on FCFF (First Class Forex Funds) prop firm ? As they have an interesting offer and look like to stay for longer or? Hmm..

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This is not a margin problem in my example. And the numbers are facts they are telling you the truth. Sometimes it is better to compound on your own than go to prop. But I also admit that this affects only a small group of traders as the most of ...

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It is more tricky when you think about this. Of course most would say 100% per month is insane, but that is what most prop firms are us asking. But the path here is very narrow that a prop firm is worth to be considered. If you can do bit more than ...

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Is that table from a website you can mention here or did you do you own table sheet of various prop firms ? If yes, do you have a larger table sheet too ?

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Then you should look for instant funding offers where there is no pressure at all. There have been quite a few serious ones here already mentioned. So feel free to try.

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Maybe it is only my guts telling me that this new prop firm First Class Forex Funds will stay for longer. They copied MFF so their business model should be solid as MFF. They are from USA and also have a very good score about 5.7 in region of MFF ...

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Do not forget there was not a long time ago that you and others said there is only FTMO and MFF, like if you choose ten prop firms then you go to FTMO; MFF; FTMO; MFF; FTMO;MFF; FTMO;MFF;FTMO;MFF and so on. Then I convinced to go to TFF and you ...

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There is no overview anymore even on page 1 of all mentioned prop firms here. The list should be at least twice or triple as long as it is on page 1 actually. By the way.

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Yes, their new challenge model is bad joke or even worse must be called pure scam, because the score of these offers are just below 1 (!). So no value at all for traders.

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