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    The US has long opposed NATO’s (especially Germany’s) dependence on Russian, formerly Soviet, natural gas. The United States, in fact, used export controls to block the original Yamal pipeline in the 1980s, believing the threat of a Russian cutoff would alter Europe’s political decisions. As recently as 2018, then-president Donald Trump warned the Europeans at the UN General Assembly of the potential for a Russian energy cutoff. There is video of the German delegation to UNGA appearing to mock Mr. Trump. Then came Ukraine and severe cutbacks in the delivery of Russian natural gas to Europe. Now, as Norway and ... (full story)

Oh Boy.. What a Bag of Worms The Newsstand editors and monitors have opened for themselves with choice to feature this subject as Trader relevant News this morning.
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My bet is that it is already known who caused the explosions. Poland's ex foreign minister has already thanked the US.
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Both Joe Biden and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland have made verbal threats against the 2 pipelines. Before this their anti pipeline speeches could have been laughed off. Completely reckless if we did this. It's an enviromnental disaster.
Quoting Micc23
Both Joe Biden and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland have made verbal threats against the 2 pipelines. Before this their anti pipeline speeches could have been laughed off. Completely reckless if we did this. It's an environmental disaster.
Jeez.. come on mate.. resist temptation to make a US domestic partisan political issue out of this could you??
"Blame Biden"? If youve any contacts in intelligence community youll know that in terms of probability guys in European intelligence community rate likelihood and C/B of US involvement at close to zero.
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Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Jeez.. come on mate.. resist temptation to make a US domestic partisan political issue out of this could you?? "Blame Biden"? If youve any contacts in intelligence community youll know that in terms of probability guys in European intelligence community rate likelihood and C/B of US involvement at close to zero.
Well, we'll see. But Biden and Nuland did make those inflammatory speecches I heard them and you could too if you search for them.

As the saying goes, "Loose Lips Sink Ships"..
Quoting Micc23
Both Joe Biden and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland have made verbal threats against the 2 pipelines. Before this their anti pipeline speeches could have been laughed off. Completely reckless if we did this. It's an enviromnental disaster.
The statements in question.
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Quoting Tranqility
{quote} The statements in question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9MNFnl-Ccs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSPfXLPUJHM
What-About-ism at its pinnacle.
Cut the innuendo.
You saying this is the work of the US?

Say what you mean.. unambiguously.
Make your call mate.
and when in time it all falls out as it always will. we can judge what you're about?
Smart guy or partisan political shit stirrer.
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Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} What-About-ism at its pinnacle. Cut the innuendo. You saying this is the work of the US? Say what you mean.. unambiguously. Make your call mate. and when in time it all falls out as it always will. we can judge what you're about? Smart guy or partisan political shit stirrer.
It’s pretty simple mate: 1. Make threat. 2. Carry out threat. Zero innuendo involved.

Common sense and Occam’s razor suggest you are as wrong about this as you were about Mariupol. The US have a long history of using energy as a diplomatic tool to achieve their goals.

There are currently large scale protests occurring in Germany demanding the reopening of Nord Stream 1 and the opening of Nord Stream 2. These options are entirely off the table thanks to this act of sabotage. It is not in Russia’s interest to destroy this very expensive and potentially profitable infrastructure which is beneficial to both parties and Europe as a whole.

Thousands march in Gera, Germany, against energy sanctions. Links below.
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https://twitter.com/radiogenova/stat...89634071105536
Let's not ever say anything against Biden, particularly not in here, where any words or finger pointing against the president (regardless of evidence), is political $hit stirring, probably bordering on hate speech.

In Trump times of course, innuendo was the accepted flavour in these forums, however it seems to be no longer.....
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Quoting RossEdwards
Oh Boy.. What a Bag of Worms The Newsstand editors and monitors have opened for themselves with choice to feature this subject as Trader relevant News this morning.
Q.E.D.

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