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But what will happen when the saboteur is from within, a probable one that starts with U that is always keen on global policing????

I read a Polish MEP openly and publicly thanking the country with capital U.

3 affected areas on Nord Stream, that definitely did not look natural to me. Lets see....who were around the vicinity of 20miles the past few days....wow wasn't it some ships from capital U again?

The whole thing sucks and smell of dirty underhand tacts!!

For goodness sake, do not waste energy for the sake of wasting it to flex one's muscle.

Will be looking to hear what the German Chancellor has to say.
Quoting NotBoris
Will be looking to hear what the German Chancellor has to say.

Sehr Gut!
Quoting NotBoris
But what will happen when the saboteur is from within, a probable one that starts with U that is always keen on global policing???? I read a Polish MEP openly and publicly thanking the country with capital U. 3 affected areas on Nord Stream, that definitely did not look natural to me. Lets see....who were around the vicinity of 20miles the past few days....wow wasn't it some ships from capital U again? The whole thing sucks and smell of dirty underhand tacts!! For goodness sake, do not waste energy for the sake of wasting it to flex one's...
Let's see now.....hmmm:

Uganda?
United Kingdom?
United States?
United Arab Emirates?
Ukraine?
Uzbekistan?
USSR?
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
It seems Germany is being sent a message that they will stay the course whether they want to or not.
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Quoting NotBoris
But what will happen when the saboteur is from within, a probable one that starts with U that is always keen on global policing???? I read a Polish MEP openly and publicly thanking the country with capital U. 3 affected areas on Nord Stream, that definitely did not look natural to me. Lets see....who were around the vicinity of 20miles the past few days....wow wasn't it some ships from capital U again? The whole thing sucks and smell of dirty underhand tacts!! For goodness sake, do not waste energy for the sake of wasting it to flex one's muscle....
"U Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-blew-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1-2-says-former-polish-defense-minister
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Now U.S. LNG trades with EU may become a bit more profitable and may go like that for a while (until some mysterious cargo disappearance start happening somewhere around Bermuda triangle).
Quoting chemosi
{quote} "U Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister" https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...fense-minister
None of the UK media is trying to verify this unfortunately, afraid of the capital U.... was disgusted by Sky journalist this morning when and where he claimed the Polish minister claimed it was the Russians!!!! But concluded it is a mystery that can never be solved....of course it can't be identified when you risk treading on your big brother's toe. That's what UK media is in its sorry state PERIOD
Quoting NotBoris
That's what UK media is in its sorry state PERIOD
There was a time that the BBC reporting was trusted around the world as factual and impartial. For a long time now it tends to be Op-Ed that lends to whatever 'political' and 'social' opinions abound in that sect of the BBC at the time. The other news agencies aren't much better....
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Let's see now.....hmmm: Uganda? United Kingdom? United States? United Arab Emirates? Ukraine? Uzbekistan? USSR?
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics no longer exists. So unless the country begins with an R you can strike Russia off your list.
Quoting nbfx
{quote} There was a time that the BBC reporting was trusted around the world as factual and impartial. For a long time now it tends to be Op-Ed that lends to whatever 'political' and 'social' opinions abound in that sect of the BBC at the time. The other news agencies aren't much better....
Yes I do remember the time where BBC was seen as impartial....those were the days

It is just a propaganda tool now.....just look at that ugly witch laura kuensberg, constantly jumping in bed with boris and defending him although she pretends to be grilling the lot. Same treatment to the rest of the tory from laura

Sky....atm there are still few left that dare to ask questions, the rest of sky are just a bunch of right wing propagandalists. At least 2 - 3 jumped ship from sky news, 1-2 from itv news - all to GB news, the far right idiotic clueless news channel. Not to forget nigel "ferrari" farage is championing gb news channel, how sick can our country descend further??
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Let's see now.....hmmm: Uganda? United Kingdom? United States? United Arab Emirates? Ukraine? Uzbekistan? USSR?
USSR - hope you are not in time warp back to 1991???
Quoting chemosi
{quote} "U Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister" https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...fense-minister
Well isnt that the wonderful thing about life.
Opinions are like Arseholes.
Everyone has one.
And these threads are a wonderful example of this truth.
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Quoting NotBoris
{quote} USSR - hope you are not in time warp back to 1991???
No -just having fun
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Well isnt that the wonderful thing about life. Opinions are like Arseholes. Everyone has one. And these threads are a wonderful example of this truth.
My favourite saying
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
Quoting nbfx
{quote} The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics no longer exists. So unless the country begins with an R you can strike Russia off your list.
Yes - but I am having fun so I went back in time
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Well isnt that the wonderful thing about life. Opinions are like Arseholes. Everyone has one. And these threads are a wonderful example of this truth.
In real life(biological),you cant live or be alive without one...
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Yes - but I am having fun so I went back in time
Time travel huh? Does the Doctor knows there's competition around?

Quoting chemosi
{quote} In real life(biological),you cant live or be alive without one...
I think I'd probably expand that to every needs at least one arsehole...
Quoting NotBoris
{quote} None of the UK media is trying to verify this unfortunately, afraid of the capital U.... was disgusted by Sky journalist this morning when and where he claimed the Polish minister claimed it was the Russians!!!! But concluded it is a mystery that can never be solved....of course it can't be identified when you risk treading on your big brother's toe. That's what UK media is in its sorry state PERIOD
Alternative news these days are worth a read...the reader then decides on the weight of information..
Quoting chemosi
{quote} Alternative news these days are worth a read...the reader then decides on the weight of information..
Unfortunately, the problem with some (if not many) readers - is ignorancy.
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Well isnt that the wonderful thing about life. Opinions are like Arseholes. Everyone has one. And these threads are a wonderful example of this truth.
I do appreciate that FF IS for opinions (mine included) but in this case, due to a vacuum in factual, cross-examined, knowledge, this is a classic scenario for peeps keen to fill the void by hypothesising a prejudiced position and then go searching for any possible element of illusory 'fact' to substantiate it. Cast the net wide enough and someone somewhere may be near the truth but it's much more likely to be by chance than clever analysis.
I reckon I can think of a huge array of possibilities as to the perpetrators and their justifications. That doesn't make any of them close to the truth.
Quoting DaJoWaBa
{quote}...due to a vacuum in factual, cross-examined, knowledge, ...
“um with regard to Nord stream 2 we continue to have a very strong and clear conversations uh with our German allies and I want to be clear with you today if Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord stream 2 will not move forward.” – Victoria Jane Nuland, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.
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And Joe Biden repeating the message "...there will be uh we there will be no longer a Nord stream 2 we we will bring an end to it..." I trust that is factual and cross examined enough to fill the vacuum for you.
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Quoting Tranqility
{quote} “um with regard to Nord stream 2 we continue to have a very strong and clear conversations uh with our German allies and I want to be clear with you today if Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord stream 2 will not move forward.” – Victoria Jane Nuland, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9MNFnl-Ccs And Joe Biden repeating the message "...there will be uh we there will be no longer a Nord stream 2 we we will bring an end to it..." I trust that is factual and cross...
Then your trust is mislaid. I restate what I said before and you demonstrate exactly what I said in my previous entry. You want to waste time on conjecture based only on one angle, be my guest. I won't attempt to argue with you.
"Syria Demands Compensation For Oil Losses In UN Speech"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/syria-demands-compensation-oil-losses-un-speech
"Many pundits were then quick to point out the obvious: that Biden denounced Russia's occupation of eastern Ukraine all the while being completely oblivious to the years-long American occupation of Syria. Or alternately, Washington is certainly fully aware and believes itself to be the only country in the world with the "right" or "mandate" to seize any foreign soil that it wants to"

illusory 'facts' sometimes substantiate themselves....
Quoting chemosi
{quote} Alternative news these days are worth a read...the reader then decides on the weight of information..
Aaah.. @chemosi.. my learned friend..
Now you are touching on INFORMED OPINION?
Yes INFORMED Opinion never ignores alternative opinions.
It does however heavily DISCOUNT them, based on their use of Alternative Facts, and partisan or propagandized sources. You want to be a good analyst?.. (well.. as a trader you need to be).
In that case we all have to leave our prejudices and baggage at the door mate. Theres a contingent here that feel that cherrypicking Alternative Media references that fit with Ideological What-Aboutism is an alternative for objective analysis. and makes them look like theyve cracked whats REALLY going on. Its not.
Theres no Black and White in the world mate. Its all just shades of grey.
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Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Aaah.. @chemosi.. my learned friend.. Now you are touching on INFORMED OPINION? Yes INFORMED Opinion never ignores alternative opinions. It does however heavily DISCOUNT them, based on their use of Alternative Facts, and partisan or propagandized sources. You want to be a good analyst?.. (well.. as a trader you need to be). In that case we all have to leave our prejudices and baggage at the door mate. Theres a contingent here that feel that cherrypicking Alternative Media references that fit with Ideological What-Aboutism is an alternative...
Lol..We are not in a court of law!!!
You do remember your cherrypicked base case postion of Mariupol situation where you ended up being
irredeemably and un-apologetically WRONG hence the 'KoolAid saga'.
How did my informed opinion become informed fact then????
leave our prejudices and baggage at the door mate?I sometimes admit i might be wrong.
When have you ever??

Bud, i respect your opinion which i might disagree with.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with added information and nothing you or i can
do about it, you just have to swallow it hard...or ignore and override...
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote}cherrypicking Alternative Media references that fit with Ideological What-Aboutism...
Mainstream Media have been covertly propagandizing information for decades....it was good then.
Now its outright centralized FAKE NEWS in your face without blinking from MSM....
I as the consumer of information ,choose ALL information, fake and real
and let them reveal themselves...
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Quoting chemosi
{quote} Mainstream Media have been covertly propagandizing information for decades....it was good then. Now its outright centralized FAKE NEWS in your face without blinking from MSM.... I as the consumer of information ,choose ALL information, fake and real and let them reveal themselves...
I understand where you are coming from..
No its not NOW.. (All) outright Fake News?
It always was.
You like me mate and other serious/ experienced/professional/retired-professional traders here never stop trying to be good analysts? Its what we are.. what trading and most of business and life is about ..Risk Management.
Ive spent lifetime doing that one way or another both sides of the coin.. spinner and un-spinner..
Yep.. retired now. But maybe I have something to pass on bcs NOTHING has changed.

IMHO You HAVE to start with MSM. Bcs ALONE they at least have SOME checks /balances/ accountability ..
Do you buy what they spin? Of course not..
You find the truth BETWEEN the lines..
and Sure - check what Alt media is saying.(BTW thers has always been an Alt-Media)
If you think you are going to find the REAL TRUTH (if there IS such a thing? -through Alt-L/R media.. Q-Anon tec.. you dont understand Human Nature. Or realise it HASNT CHANGED and never will.

You know Im sure Scott Fitzgerald often cited quotation That "the test of a First-Rate Intelligence Is the Ability To Hold Two Opposed Ideas in the Mind at the Same Time" (edit) ..and still retain the ability to function. (Rationally)

You may not be familiar with Maynard Smith.. who understood the difficulty of successful analysis..
about the dangers of polarized thinking..
"A broad-minded man, who can see both sides of the question and is ready to hold opposed truths while confessing that he cannot reconcile them, ...is at a manifest disadvantage with a narrow-minded man who sees but one side, sees it clearly, and is ready to interpret the whole Bible, or, if need be, the whole universe, in accordance with his formula.

IMHO The truth of this can be seen every day on this forum.
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